Beyond Big Law: AABANY Panel Explores Diverse Legal Career Paths at Fordham Law

On April 15, 2026, the Asian American Bar Association of New York (AABANY)’s LGBTQ Committee, in collaboration with the Solo and Small Firm Practice Committee, hosted a dynamic and insightful panel at Fordham Law School titled “Table Talk: Careers Beyond Big Law.” Generously co-sponsored by Fordham APALSA and Fordham OUTLaws, with support from AABANY’s Student Outreach Committee, the event brought together an accomplished group of legal professionals and an engaged audience of students and early-career professionals eager to explore alternative pathways within the legal profession.

Mina Yi, a Fordham Law student representing Fordham APALSA, served as moderator and kicked off the discussion by asking the panelists to introduce themselves, their practice areas, and their current roles. Then, she asked them to share their advice on how students can pursue non-traditional or non-Big Law career paths.

The panel featured a diverse lineup of speakers, including Gregory Hom (Nixon Peabody), Kayla Lucia (Mintz), Yen-Yi Anderson (Anderson & Associates), Thomas Wu (New York State Housing Finance Agency), Daobo Wang (New York State Unified Court System), and Glenn Magpantay (U.S. Commission on Civil Rights). Almost all the speakers were AABANY leaders: Gregory is the current Co-Chair of the LGBTQ Committee. Kayla was Co Chair during the last fiscal year, and Daobo is Co-Chair this fiscal year. Yen-Yi is Co-Chair of the Solo and Small Firm Practice Committee. Glenn is a Director on AABANY’s Board.

The speakers’ careers spanned public finance, employment litigation, immigration, small law firm practice, government service, judicial clerkships, and civil rights policy. Their varied trajectories illustrated a central theme of the evening: legal careers are rarely linear. The panelists conveyed that professional fulfillment often emerges from adaptability in one’s circumstances, persistence, and meaningful relationships.

From the outset, panelists demystified the notion of a singular “Big Law path.” Gregory Hom offered a nuanced perspective on large-firm practice, noting that not all firms operate under the same high-turnover model often associated with the industry. He mentioned that instead, firms like Nixon Peabody prioritize sustained interest in specialized practice areas, such as his own work in public finance, and rely heavily on faculty recommendations and personal connections in hiring. In his daily practice, he acts as a “watchdog” for state agencies and investment banks, meticulously reviewing documents to ensure securities law disclosures are consistent and avoid SEC investigations. Gregory shared that he secured his role after heavily leaning on a professor for guidance, and he recommended that students not shy away from doing the same.

Kayla Lucia echoed this sentiment, reflecting on her own nontraditional journey, starting in Legal Aid, then moving to “Midlaw,” and eventually to a major firm specializing in employment law. She noted that she transitioned into private practice to find a more sustainable professional life and to avoid the burnout she felt in the public interest sector. Kayla encouraged students to think critically about the kind of professional and personal life they hope to build, and to consider factors like team size and environmental competitiveness, rather than defaulting to prestige-driven choices. Her current work involves bridging the gap between poorly written statutes and the concise answers employers need, while also assessing the factual viability of litigation claims.

Yen-Yi Anderson provided a compelling account of forging an independent path to starting her own small firm practice. She recounted that her career did not follow a direct route after law school, spending years in nonprofit and media work before returning to the legal field and building her own practice through relationships she had developed with foreign entrepreneurs. In a small-firm setting, she emphasized that attorneys must “wear many hats,” balancing legal work with responsibilities such as managing hiring, payroll, office management, and client development. At the same time, she noted that her practice areas in immigration and commercial litigation require constant attention to evolving laws and policies, which makes adaptability essential. Despite the challenges, Yen-Yi relished the autonomy that comes with running her own firm. She is able to choose her clients, shape her workload, and maintain flexibility in her schedule to allow her to prioritize family alongside her career. 

The discussion was further enriched by perspectives from the public sector, illustrating how legal work can directly shape public policy and address community needs. Thomas Wu detailed his role at the New York State Housing Finance Agency, where legal practice operates at the intersection of law and urban development. In this capacity, attorneys work alongside policymakers and financial institutions to structure deals that support affordable housing initiatives across the state. He described the work as both technical and mission-driven as it requires attorneys to translate legal frameworks into practical tools that enable large-scale development projects. Thomas also emphasized the importance of fellowship programs, such as the Excelsior Fellows Program, as accessible and structured entry points into government service for recent graduates seeking substantive experience and long-term pathways into public sector careers.

Similarly, Glenn Magpantay offered a broader, long-term perspective shaped by decades of experience across civil rights enforcement, nonprofit leadership, AABANY, and his current role as a Commissioner on the United States Commission on Civil Rights. Glenn encouraged students to view their careers as evolving journeys that may have uncertainty and deviation from previous expectations. Glenn advised, “Don’t worry too much about getting it right the first time—your career will evolve, and you’ll get where you want to go,” reinforcing the idea that resilience and adaptability with the legal community are often more determinative of long-term success.

The discussion also highlighted the critical role of networking and mentorship. Speakers consistently emphasized that relationships, such as those cultivated through bar associations like AABANY and broader community engagement, are often instrumental in securing opportunities. Glenn noted that in a competitive field where many candidates appear equally qualified on paper, it is frequently personal connections and trusted recommendations that set applicants apart.

During the Q&A portion, one student asked how the law is actually applied in day-to-day practice as opposed to the case-based learning emphasized in law school. Speakers responded by illustrating their actual responsibilities in vivid detail. Whether it was Gregory ensuring regulatory compliance in complex financial disclosures, Kayla interpreting ambiguous statutes to advise clients, or Daobo drafting judicial opinions grounded in meticulous legal research, each speaker illustrated how legal reasoning operates in real-world contexts. These insights helped bridge the gap between classroom learning and professional application where students were able to gather a clearer understanding of what legal work truly entails.

The evening concluded with an interactive session in which attendees also introduced themselves and shared their aspirations, followed by informal networking over pizza. Thank you to AABANY’s LGBTQ Committee and Solo and Small Firm Practice Committee for organizing and hosting this thoughtful and engaging program, as well as to Fordham APALSA and Fordham OUTLaws for their generous co-sponsorships and collaboration. Special appreciation also goes to the Student Outreach Committee for their continued support in creating meaningful opportunities for students to engage with practitioners across diverse areas of the legal profession.

Immigration Law Committee Co-Chairs Share Compassionate Insights at Fordham University

photos courtesy of FCLC United Student Government

On Thursday, October 16, Fordham College at Lincoln Center’s United Student Government, Asian Pacific American Coalition, and Immigration Advocacy Coalition hosted a panel titled “Immigration Rights & Immigration Law Today.”  The panelists were practicing attorneys from AABANY: Zhixian Liu and Susan Song (Co-Chairs of AABANY’s Immigration Law Committee) and Yen-Yi Anderson (Co-Chair of AABANY’s Solo and Small Firm Practice Committee).  Additionally, two of the three student hosts, Daphne Mei and Juliet Romero, were former AABANY Legal Interns. 

Fifty undergraduate students eagerly listened as the speakers shared their personal journeys into immigration law, each being an immigrant themselves. Anderson, who immigrated from Taiwan, discussed her non-linear career path and how she unexpectedly entered the non-profit sector before transitioning to the field of immigration law. Setting the context for today’s challenges, Song described the increasingly complex environment of practicing law under an administration that aggressively enforces immigration policies. Liu, speaking about the daily life of an immigration attorney, highlighted the importance of prioritizing mental health, especially when working under political conditions that may seem discouraging.

The panelists stressed the importance of client preparedness, highlighting that proactive measures are crucial for individuals facing potential ICE enforcement actions. They recommended that clients secure legal counsel, establish emergency plans, and organize their legal and financial documents to ensure they are ready for any situation. 

The panelists also talked about student safety, especially for individuals  and families who do not have legal permanent status. They emphasized that knowing one’s rights during encounters with authorities is vital, and carrying a readily accessible “Know Your Rights” card can provide valuable information in an emergency.

Lastly, the panelists encouraged permanent residents to leverage their status to support those who are undocumented. They urged these allies to actively engage in community efforts by connecting undocumented persons with legal aid and emergency support networks, fostering a sense of solidarity and assistance within the community.

The session concluded with a lively Q&A where students sought actionable advice on both career preparation and community advocacy. The audience asked the speakers about effective pathways into immigration law, suggestions for volunteer opportunities, and what an undergraduate should know before pursuing a legal career. Students also inquired about how local communities could collaborate with legal professionals to address ICE’s actions during the Trump administration. 

The speakers shared several insightful takeaways. Anderson encouraged students to engage in meaningful volunteer work at AABANY’s Pro Bono Clinic, an invaluable resource that offers free legal assistance and is open to all members of the community. This opportunity not only allows students to gain practical experience but also to make a positive impact in the lives of those affected. Liu passionately emphasized the necessity of confronting political challenges with courage and determination, inspiring aspiring immigration law professionals to pursue their careers without fear.

Students left the panel filled with courage and hope, inspired by the speakers who shared uplifting messages about the vital importance of working in the immigration field today. The event was made even more enjoyable with delicious boba tea, Korean fried chicken, and bulgogi fried rice.

AABANY thanks the Fordham undergraduate student leaders for hosting this timely panel discussion.
written by Eva Lee,  President of Immigration Advocacy Coalition (IAC), Fordham University

Thank You for Attending the Solo and Small Firm Practice Committee Happy Hour!

On the evening of October 9, 2025, AABANY’s Solo and Small Firm Practice (SSFP) Committee hosted a lively happy hour at Cha Cha Tang, bringing together solo and small firm  practitioners, in-house counsel, aspiring small firm practitioners, and others for an evening of networking, community, and good food. Although titled “Solo and Small Firm Practice Committees Happy Hour,” the event drew a wide mix of participants. The energy in the room reflected the entrepreneurial spirit that defines the SSFP Committee.

Attendees enjoyed a delicious spread of shared plates, including potstickers, shumai, shrimp dumplings, scallion pancakes, and more. The cozy atmosphere of Cha Cha Tang provided the perfect setting for meaningful conversations, new connections, and the exchange of experience amongst a wide range of attendees. 

We extend our gratitude to everyone who attended and helped make the evening a success. Your enthusiasm and engagement are what make these gatherings special. If you missed the event, don’t worry; more opportunities are coming! Keep an eye on AABANY’s Events Calendar for upcoming programs and networking opportunities. To learn more about the SSFP Committee, click here.

We extend special thanks to the Co-Chairs of the SSFP Committee, Yen-Yi Anderson and Bianca Lin, and Vice Chair Tiffany Miao for their coordination and organization. Also to our sponsors at Allegaert Berger & Vogel LLP, whose generosity helped make this event possible. 

AABANY Professional Development Committee and Solo and Small Firm Practice Committee Host Panels on Parents-in-Practicing Law

With the end of the holiday season and the start of a New Year, we want to give our gratitude and admiration for all the working parents in the legal professions who balance their demanding schedule at work and at home. 

On November 12, 2024, the Solo and Small Firm Practice Committee hosted the “Mothers-in-(Practicing) Law” Panel, which was moderated by Yen-Yi Anderson, Co-Chair of Solo and Small Firm Practice Committee and Managing Principal at Anderson & Associates Law P.C., and invited speakers: Hon. Lillian Wan, Associate Justice of Appellate Division, Second Department; Ada Wang, IP Litigation & Antitrust Senior Associate at Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati; Michelle Li, Director at Perella Weinberg Partners, and Megan Rha, Partner at Rha Kim Grossman & McIlwain LLP. The engaging discourse allowed panelists and the audience to discuss the challenges of a demanding legal profession for women and the added responsibilities of child-rearing.

The burden of child-rearing affects working parents in the legal profession emotionally, mentally, and physically. To follow up, on November 13, 2024, the Professional Development Committee hosted the “Fathers-in-(Practicing) Law” Panel with moderator Willow Liu, Esq, and featured speakers Benjamin Hsing, AABANY’s President-Elect and Partner at Venable, LLP., and Kwok Ng, Co-Chair of the Pro Bono & Community Services Committee and Associate Court Attorney in NYC Civil Court. The speakers talked about how legal employers viewed paternity leave in the past versus now, how paid family leave creates equity for both mothers and fathers to care for newborns, and how to set life balance needs and boundaries to protect their family time. 

Being a lawyer is already an incredibly challenging profession, and adding the responsibility of parenting requires extraordinary strength, endurance, and time management. To excel both in legal careers and as loving parents, our speakers emphasized being tolerant (remember to breathe, and it’s ok even when it’s not ok), practicing self-care, such as getting adequate rest (if possible) and taking walks, and working as a team with your work colleagues, family, and significant other. In the end, all can agree that family comes first! 

To working parents in the legal profession, don’t be too harsh on yourselves. You are not alone! Please consider joining the Parents Committee (in formation) to share parenting advice. For more information about that Committee email us at [email protected].

AABANY Solo and Small Firm Practice Committee Hosts Bubble Tea Social

On September 4, 2024, the AABANY Solo and Small Firm Practice Committee hosted a Bubble Tea Social, held in the Financial District of downtown Manhattan. 

The event was casual, yet lively and attendees enjoyed bubble tea drinks from Kung Fu Tea, custom-made with different tea and topping options. Favorite drinks included Winter Melon tea and Strawberry Lemonade tea with lychee. Individuals discussed their backgrounds, careers, and professional experiences, reconnecting with previous acquaintances while also introducing themselves to unfamiliar faces. 

This was AABANY’s first ever Bubble Tea Social, so we extend a special thanks to the Solo and Small Firm Practice Committee for organizing and hosting this event as well as everyone who was in attendance.

To learn more about the Solo and Small Firm Practice Committee, please click here.

Smashing Good Time: AABANY’s Ping Pong Social at PingPod, presented by Solo and Small Firm Practice, Young Lawyers, and Immigration Law Committees

When it comes to bringing people together for a weekend afternoon of fun, networking, and friendly competition, the Asian American Bar Association of New York (AABANY) knows how to serve up an ace. On Saturday, October 7, AABANY’s Solo and Small Firm Practice, Young Lawyers, and Immigration Law Committees organized an exciting Ping Pong social event at PingPod on the Lower East Side, and it was an afternoon filled with excitement, camaraderie, and impressive rallies.

Ping Pong enthusiasts from various legal backgrounds gathered at PingPod, each armed with a paddle and ready to showcase their skills. From beginners to seasoned pros, the event welcomed players of all levels. It was a fantastic opportunity for lawyers from both private and public sectors and recent law school graduates to let off some steam and engage in some friendly competition.

Participants also found themselves forging new connections, discussing legal topics, and even making potential career moves between rallies. Ping Pong truly served as the icebreaker, and the event demonstrated how professional connections can be made in the most unexpected settings.

Thank you to everyone for spending their Saturday afternoon with AABANY. Here’s to more exciting events and unforgettable moments brought by AABANY! Special thanks to Yen-Yi Anderson, Co-Chair of the Solo and Small Firm Practice Committee, Ada Wang, Co-Chair of the Young Lawyers Committee, and Susan Song, Co-Chair of the Immigration Law Committee, for their hard work planning and organizing this event.

AABANY Solo and Small Firm Practice Committee Co-Hosts: How to Utilize NYC Small Business Services Benefits as a Solo or Small Law Firm

NYC Department of Small Business Services (SBS) joined the AABANY Solo and Small Firm Practice Committee on June 28 for an information session on how to utilize SBS services. The event took place at the SBS offices at One Liberty Plaza in the Financial District. The Department of SBS’s current commissioner is Kevin Kim, a former Board Officer of AABANY. The twenty AABANY participants in attendance were impressed by SBS programs targeted towards small business owners, which include law firm owners, and could help lawyers assist their small business clients.

“We spent over $20 billion in contracts with minority and women-owned businesses last year,” shared Kitty Chan, Deputy Commissioner of the Division of Small Business Services.  Ms. Chan encouraged all AABANY participants to sign up for M/WBE certification to receive opportunities for contracts directly with the city.  “The team at SBS is here to help you set up your profile and identify opportunities that work for you or your clients,” added Anna Yakubova, Assistant Commissioner of M/WBE Recruitment and Eligibility.

Other programs discussed by Ms. Chan, Ms. Yakubova, and Michael Fong, Executive Director of Government Navigation, were NYC Business Express Service Team (BEST), NYC Small Business Month, Commercial Lease Assistance, Workforce1 Career Centers, and other programs to help businesses with training, financing, and legal assistance.

“SBS is an amazing resource for solo and small law firms and we look forward to our AABANY members actively engaging with SBS going forward,” said Yen-Yi Anderson, Co-Chair of the AABANY Solo and Small Firm Practice Committee, after the event.

“We are all very grateful that SBS spent their valuable time educating us about the many benefits of their programs,” added committee Co-Chair Vishal Chander.

After the event, the speakers and participants networked and enjoyed a spread of samosas and chai provided by East Village’s Desi Galli restaurant.

Thank you to the speakers, participants, and the Solo and Small Firm Practice Committee for a fruitful discussion and an engaging event. Click here to learn more about the Solo and Small Firm Practice Committee and how to get involved. 

Fall Harvest Moon Festival Networking Event

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On September 26, 2018, AABANY’s Real Estate and Solo & Small Firm Practice Committees, with KALAGNY, Citrin Cooperman and HSBC, hosted a Fall Harvest Moon Festival Networking Event. Over 60 people attended the event at Citrin Cooperman’s Fifth Avenue headquarters. AABANY leadership in attendance included Margaret Ling, AABANY Development Director and Co-Chair of AABANY’s Real Estate Committee; Cary Chan, AABANY Co-Chair of Real Estate and Solo & Small Firm Practice Committee; Poonam Gupta, AABANY Immigration Committee Co-Chair; Beatrice Leong, AABANY Government Service and Public Interest Committee Co-Chair; and Vincent Chang, Former AABANY President. VIP Guests included Bridgette Ahn, President of the Network of Bar Leaders; George Xu, President of New Century Development; and Wellington Chan, Executive Director of Chinatown Partnership. Many thanks to our sponsors Ben Liu, CPA, Director at Citrin Cooperman, and David Lau, Retail Business Banking Relationship Manager at HSBC Bank. Everyone enjoyed the networking and the buffet, which included moon cakes to celebrate the Mid-Autumn Festival.

Above: Citrin Cooperman Team and Margaret Ling

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Left to Right: Bridgette Ahn, George Xu, David Lau,Margaret Ling, Ben Liu

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Left to Right: Ben Liu, George Xu, Patrick Yu, Wellington Chan, Margaret Ling, David Fesser

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Left to Right: Jane Chen, Jang Lee, Margaret Ling, Cary Chan